In the ideal world every one would have the same degree of health services that the President receives. But that costs money, the root of all evil. There are only two theoretical forms of government that could potentially create such a state, neither of which has ever evolved politically. They are "Communism" or "Socialism". There are unique difference s between both, so a definition is included at the end of this post.
Plainfield lost its health anchor because of supposed increasing operational debt. That was reportedly due to the patient mixture and increase in the number of indigent patients. Obviously the answer to their care is to walk away, with State approval.
If one holds to the tenet as I do that everyone is entitled to complete health care irregardless of ability to pay understanding that it is not a right or entitlement but a societal responsibility, it is imperative to include the undocumented residents.This is a great stumbling point, but in the end it is less costly financially by preventing long term institutional care. It is less costly morally because by excluding any group of society you deny that "all men are created equally".
Unfortunately, there has to be a compromise because there is no way such complete care can be afforded. Government can not pay without increasing its source of income, Taxes, or by increasing debt. With the later the reckoning day has to come . The politician hopes that will be someone else's problem long after he is gone.
The Universal Health Care plans passed in Congress addresses the issue in several ways, all which if explored completely will compromise the quality and quantity of care. I will admit that I am not familiar with all of the nuances in the plan and I will bet that none in our Federal Government understands every thing that was legislate.
However, I think the percentage of the population excluded by the plans runs abut 20%. Of the 80% covered the care can only be fiscally justified by: (a) limiting services; this is accomplished by giving the insurance carriers and Medicare/ Medicaid the right to determine necessity or substitute alternate procedures which may not be equal but "similar". (b)The other option is to progressively reduce reimbursements while at the same time increasing costly legal operational requirements. The later often has no relationship to quality but satisfies bureaucratic thought process. Examples are the constant reduction by Medicare or Insurance plans of reimbursement to "providers".
Since I do not believe that any Hospital/ ER setup will be able to survive at present much less than in future reimbursements. I can not conceive any operator opening even a small 125 bed "full service" and expect to survive.There is a change in the last 20 years that could still make remotely make a commercial operation potential. That is in the human delivery of services.
Since the advent of the HMO's there has been a tendency for physicians to form group practices. The members take scheduled turns in visiting hospital patients.In other cases the hospital is employing its own physicians to treat in patients while excluding the referring doctor.
In the doctor's office the MD is becoming less the deliverer of care but more and more the administrator by increasing the role of less trained Physician's Assistants and Nurse Practitioners or Social workers for actual patient contact.
No longer is there a personal relationship. Patients are no people but have become a case number. Much of the population has accepted that because it saves them money. Health c are is no more than grocery shopping.
If the Feds/States/ Insurance carriers increase Hospital/ER reimbursement to cover expenses and with the employment of in house based physicians and auxiliaries to render care a commercial operation could succeed.
Pure communism, or the stage in history after socialism, refers to a classless, stateless society, one where decisions on what to produce and what policies to pursue are made in the best interests of the collective society with the interests of every member of society given equal weight in the practical decision-making process in both the political and economic spheres of life
Posted 4/1/11 Title added 4/2/11
Posted 4/1/11 Title added 4/2/11
Socialism any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
Socialism is an economic and political theory advocating public or common ownership and cooperative management of the means of production and allocation of resources.[1][2][3] A socialist society is organized on the basis of relatively equal power-relations, self-management, dispersed decision-making (autocracy) and a reduction or elimination of hierarchical and bureaucratic forms of administration and governance, the extent of which varies in different types of socialism.[4][5] This ranges from the establishment of cooperative management structures to the abolition of all hierarchical structures in favor of free association
Here are some interesting statistics:
ReplyDeleteYear 2007:
The US spent $6096 a year in health care for each individual. Canada spent $3173 a year for each individual and they cover everyone. The average Canadian lives to be 80.7 while the average American lives to be 78.3
Clearly the almost $3000 per annum differential and the lower life expectancy shows we are doing something wrong.
1 Tomothy 6:10 - For the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil. And some people, craving money, have wandered from the true faith and pierced themselves with many sorrows.
ReplyDeleteThey tried communal socialism of a sort in Jamestown, but with everyone dying and the colony failing because of it, Capt. John Smith had to take control with the use of Capitalism in it's basic form to save one and all . . . NO WORK, NO EAT!!!!
You are aware that approximately 1000 large corporations and at least one State , Maine, have exemptions from complying with the so called ObamaCare? Why, if it's so great!Why if it's what everyone needs?
I believe that the event we need to level the playing field here on planet earth is that we get struck by an asteroid or comet the size of Texas, that would do the trick!
If you are a country founded on democratic concepts then you must also be dependent on a series of laws that must apply equally to all. There can be no 'laws that don't matter'. There can be laws that evolve and change, at the will of the voters (note not the people).
ReplyDeleteDoc, put your blinders on for one minute and consider what the cost benefit to Plainfield would be if all illegals were gone. Not shifted to the next town but gone.
A quick view on the internet shows that most countries that Hispanic illegals hail from have universal health care.
The United States has a very generous legal immigration system that affords a chance for people from all across the world to come to America. If you want to see how to help those legally within Plainfield who need healthcare you must first exclude those who are illegal, and by definition breaking the law, and send them back to their own county where they can avail themselves of its free health services.
TAP, I disagree with your interpretation of the events in Jamestown but I'll save that for another time.
ReplyDeleteAnon 4:00 PM are you serious or unchristian or un-American. We are ethically bound by law and culture to treat people ‘those who are illegal’ and I can remember the same things being said about African-Americans.
Hispanics are that in name only and are the descendants of the aboriginals who people the Americas. We took there land, killed at least 25 million of them, read ‘1491’ and put up a border separating them from their kin. If any group of people has a claim on this country, they do.
Nat, your living in a dream world. All countries have immigration laws. If fact most of the countries that the illegal Hispanic immigrants come from have very harsh penalties for those who infringe on their borders, check out Mexico.Aboutwhose land it is you can't rewrite history but it is worth noting that by far most illegal immigrants speak spanish. By your logic perhaps these people should transgress into Spain and be illegals there.
ReplyDeleteTo say that the removal of illegal immigrants from Plainfield would not enhance the ability to provide healthcare for legal Blacks and legal Hispanics who otherwise can't afford it makes no sense. Charities remain in the best position to help those who do not qualify for benefits legally.
What you hope for and would like to have happen can not be without causing unstainable strain upon government resources resulting in those who legally deserve those resources being short changed.
It is akin to outfits like People's Organization for Progress, they seem like a well meaning lot until you do the research!
ReplyDeleteTheir core demands( http://njpop.org/wordpress/?page_id=19) if instituted would destroy this country in short order!
What sounds good on paper . . .
Hi Doc..
ReplyDeleteI worked in customer service for BCBS of NJ for many years. I know that one of Solaris' main arguements for the ultimate Muhlenberg shut down was because there was an overwhelming preference to go to JFK b/cs due to concerns regarding personal safety,etc. But, like you said it comes down to the $ and what Solaris officers failed to include was that Muhlenberg was NOT a parcipating facility in anyone's network therefore, JFK, which is a participating facility in several networks, of course had the upperhand. Meaning that people are going somewhere where they are only responsible for a copayment as opposed to going somewhere where they will ultimately have to pay for the entire charge or a huge percentage.
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With that being said, I don't know and wonder if there is precendent out there where citizens could elect to become members of a healthcenter. What I'm talking about is this: If folks are given an option to pay into a membership to a local healthcenter, a local medical group maybe for a yearly nominal fee and will pay for copayments toward services,would that be a viable option for consideration. I also mention this because as someone who was laid off and whose COBRA has since expired, I have no coverage b/cs I'm not employed (except for temporary at this point)and why should healthcare be tied to our places of employment (such as my former one) or to a corporation (such as Solaris)who can pack it up and leave at any given moment.
In terms of Muhlenberg, the Healthcenter and community care, maybe it wouldn't hit all bases but isn't better than hitting none? This could produce a relevant stream of revenue as well as maybe alleviating the cost of making the ER the primary care of the under or non covered. I'm sorry for the length.. just a thought.