Whether due to voter apathy or candidate apathy in this community the so called non political elections have resulted in a board that many feel has been derelict in its fiduciary duty to the citizens and worse of all for the students.
Although I consider it to be a better alternative, an appointed board by the Mayor in Plainfield, if her performance with other appointments during her term are an indicator, could result in even a worse cataclysm.
Thus we a caught between the "proverbial rock and a hard place" in maintaining the status quo.
The one requirement that we must insist on is full disclosure by all candidates in order that we can be sure that there is no inadvertent ethical problems or potential conflicts of interests. The voter should be able to judge if a common workplace for several members of the Board could create a potential problem, or if a relative in a critical administrative position could compromise a Board members vote. Even a close relative as a teacher, administrator or student in a particular school to which a board member has a special affiliation opens the potentiality of undue impact.
None of the above may ever have a negative effect but the possibility may inadvertently exist.
Why do I mention this?
On March 12 Renata posted the first of three information blogs about the "trio ticket candidates"; Mr Alex Edach. which resulted in the following comment by of course anonymous
- I know that Mr. Edache works for John and Wilma Campbell's real estate office. I think its good for that to be disclosed so that no one thinks he is trying to hide anything. I know him and like him
I had written "If we are to have honesty in elections, full disclosure including any potential ethical or conflict issues is essential. To gloss over that fact is not in the public interests" to which Renata apparently took umbrage. The rest of the "discussions" should be read but rather then reprint I would hope you will hit the .;
However since she as of 4:30PM 3/22/11 has not posted my reply which I have no record but alluded to it in a smirking comment I am reprinting a nearly factual rebuttal to the offending commentary: Unfortunately the formatting has been lost. Her remarks are in italics mine in standard type. The red emphasis is mine.
O’contrare*, I am responding to what you wrote, or rather what you didn’t write and therefore what was implied simply by you writing it in the first place. Duplicitous in the sense that you held back what it was you were questioning but put forth that there was something questionable. If that is not what you meant -- that is certainly how I read it. I don't know how one can respond to what I did not write or unless clairvoyant to thoughts that may never have occurred to me.
So Doc -- let’s us be frank here. Let’s dissect the conversation… You said: “If we are to have honesty in elections, full disclosure including any potential ethical or conflict issues is essential”.
That is what I wrote. You would question that we need to know everything, excluding his private life, about a candidate?
What exactly did you mean here? To write such a statement without any specific implies that you ‘perceived’ something posted (or not posted) exist. My question to YOU is WHAT is the missing information? What prompted you to write this comment? Once again you make an unwarranted assumption. Not every one is insidious or has a selfish agenda..
Then you said – “To gloss over that fact is not in the public's interests.” So the accusation here (at least to me)is that “I” somehow had decided to gloss over the facts. When all I did was post what was given, and although you may have probed – that is certainly your prerogative. I chose not to –that is my prerogative. I made no accusation, reread the first paragraph. Your blog is yours alone. What you post is your privilege. I made no suggestion that you withheld information Once again you take a remark out of context. The preceding sentence is important. But you were flip in your response to "Anon". Unfortunately, to read defamatory intent in every statement suggests a tendency to paranoia. I am sure that is not the fact.
And finally, I totally degree with your last statement – I think that the forums are EXACTLY the place to vet the candidates. This is what it is for… I consider the LWV forum a valuable tool in judging candidates. I attend most of them. But they are not the only venue for the public to judge. Many can not attend the forums. Do you dismiss the media; newspapers, flier's, radio, television as important sources of information? What is in the printed media can not be misunderstood as can the spoken word in the forum setting.
Renata, your style and use of the idiom in your blog is unique and quiet often incomprehensible to us old fogies, but you are what you are. Oh, " O’contrare" is "au contrair" which means "on the contrary, quite the opposite". It is French.
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Old Doc, I'm sitting here doing my taxes, thanks for the comic relief.
ReplyDeleteSeems that our educational system has develop a talent for producing an excess of 'Sara Palins' of diverse ilks.
See what happens when substitute self-esteem for critical thinking.
Critical thinking? In elected officials in Plainfield?
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I have to agree with you Doc. The potential for a conflict of interest is obvious when someone is pulling down a salary and might vote in a particular fashion at the behest of the employer, or else risk losing their job. Will it happen with Mr. Edache? Who knows? Does it happen sometimes? Of course. The best bet is to put it out there and let the public decide if it is important or not.
ReplyDeleteThe ever-pugilistic Ms. Hernandez with her snooty responses is bothersome. Whatever she may bring to the table is diminished by her defensiveness of the high-horse she thinks she's riding. It's one thing to make your case based on points of merit. It's another to make a case based on who happens to be on one side or another. When it all boils down to tactics you lose sight of the strategy.
I see the same thing in our city government, where factionalism often takes precedence over smarts, and the issue is not the issue but the controversy. That's what inspires the masses to come out, and the commentariat to post their comments. Battles may be won, but the war goes on with no resolution.
LOL you all humor me much.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the lesson Doc. O'Contrare -- me thinketh someone helped you out with that one.
In all that surrounds him the egotist sees only the frame of his own portrait. ~J. Petit-Senn
ReplyDeleteRenata, I have given you the courtesy of posting your last remarks. Since you have your own media you are not denied the freedom of expression for which you berate others. I am glad that you can "THINKETH"# but I can assure you that I did not have to consult my 10year old great grandson who does know the term "au contrair".
I will admit that I do not have your propensity with words especially "King James" English so to Wikipedia I went:"Thinketh" It looks like an old-fashioned conjugation of the verb to think
Here are a few quotes from the Bible:
The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away
My cup runneth over
You are all cut from the same cloth. You ridicule what you yourself are guilty of; it is quite spectacular to behold. Go through your blogs and you will see the random three Nat, Alan and Old Doc attacking, name calling, be littling. What they all have in common is that they are all talk. Not a single one of them is involve in the community for the betterment. It is so much easier to spew insults then to "man-up" and be about the business of bringing Plainfield back to honor.
ReplyDeleteBe nice....be sincere....
Oh to dream!
7:07 Anonymous, since you are in essence a wraith I can't recall you speaking up at Council meetings or even trying to call attention to improprieties. Without a name or body you have no right to be critical of others. Be that as it may I have no record of attacking or name calling anyone. Belittling perhaps if possible a person who assumes a position untouchable superiority over the rest of us bewildered humans.
ReplyDeleteAS to your charge of not being involved in the community, that is baseless but I can't pit my record or the others against a shadow.
I had no idea where I work is a requirement for running for a seat on the Plainfield Board of Education.I thought my background as a former teacher was more important. The truth is with the word count limitations I thought I should condense my experiences. I have many. I am proud to inform you I work in the Campbell's office as a part-time realtor,but my full time work is in the health profesion. I am an independent thinker and will continue in that same way if elected.I admire the courage Wilma has demonstrated to work for the betterment of the children of Plainfield.I will be happy to make my own contributions to the children also.I can only hope you will support my efforts.
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Alex Edache
Unbelievable that Mr. Edache did not see the need to disclose his relationship with the Campbells. Unbelievable, and I believe this is a first, that a board member publishes candidate information. The conflict of interest is obvious! In the meantime, who is working in the best interst of the students? I totally agree with Mr. Goldstein's comments!
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